Hi all,
We haven’t (touch wood) experienced any major issues with intruders at Muswell Hill recently. The front of our building is covered by dusk to Dawn lighting using Phillips ‘Wiz’ lightbulbs, which are very low cost, connect to your WiFi, and can be set to switch on, off or change light levels at sunset and sunrise without needing to adjust physical time switches or install expensive sensors. The sides and rear of our building are all covered by simple LED bulkhead lights with motion sensors. Like many Meeting houses we have a digital code lock on our front door which is constantly locked (apart from Sunday meetings) and we change hirers codes quite regularly. We also have a small scale CCTV system purchased on eBay for £30, which is attached to our warden’s flat. Be aware that cctv on public buildings needs to be registered and a fee paid.
Hope the above is useful!
George 

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Resident Warden Team - Olivia, George and Ulyses 
Muswell Hill Quaker Meeting House, 77 Church Crescent N10 3NE
Tel: 020 8883 2180
https://muswellhill.quakermeeting.org/



On Tuesday, 29 April 2025 at 13:36:58 BST, Lancaster Quakers <lancasterquakers@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi Ceals

I can't help as we have pretty much the same as you in terms of lack of helpful policy and open access without the staff presence.  I'm responding because it is a very live issue for us, having recently had someone lock themselves into one of our toilets and then refuse to leave and a very lackluster response from the police call handler saying 'well they obviously just need to use the toilet, what's the problem, they're behind a locked door'.  This was half an hour after we had closed; I found a 2 1/2 ltr empty cider bottle hidden in a cupboard in the toilet cubicle after they eventually left.  The police did come half an hour after I called them, and we would not have got him out without their help. I left the building and waited outside as I had no idea what I would be greeted with when he did eventually leave the toilet - size, weight, physical strength or control - but kept watching through the windows to make sure he didn't escalate things inside.  This is just the latest of several incidents, and although the local committee and Area Meeting Trustees are working on a Lone Worker policy, I very much doubt it will address this issue in any meaningful way.  I'd be very interested to hear if any Meetings have something that is helpful and workable in place - other than having 'reception' staff watching the door whenever the building is open.

Thanks for asking the questions Ceals.

Tasha

Natasha Heny
Meeting House Manager (Warden)
Lancaster Quaker Meeting House

(I work flexible hours over 5 days and have two days off each week)







On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 at 12:52, Walthamstow Quakers <walthamstow.quakers@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello all you lovely people,

Do any of you have a policy on what to do if you get an unwanted intruder in the building?  We have a very brief one but it pretty much amounts to hide and phone the cops. There are very few rooms within the building that anyone could lock themselves in. Also, with the best will in the world, without having someone in the foyer from 8am to 10pm daily checking who is coming in, it is impossible to prevent anyone from coming in who shouldn't be here.

Any help is gratefully appreciated.

All the best,

Ceals

Pronouns: her, she
Building Manager
Walthamstow Quaker Meeting House
1a Jewel Road
London E17 4QU
 
 

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