Hello, Are any of you planning to put up your room hire charges in 2024? What data will you use to guide this increase? Consumer price inflation index? Bank of England interest rates? Standing charges for electricity increase? Or the not very scientific method of "stick a finger in the air and guess which way the wind might blow"? Many thanks, Miranda Girdlestone Edinburgh Quaker Meeting House -- Quaker Meeting House Tel: 0131 225 4825 7 Victoria Terrace Email: office@equaker.org.uk Edinburgh EH1 2JL what3words.com/cloud.renew.sport Scottish Charity No. SCO19165 Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) in Britain: South East Scotland Area Meeting
Hello Everyone, John Arnison from Roundhay meeting, we have put our prices up,we used the finger in the air method, not very scientific I know and it was only an extra £2 on the original price. Best John Sent from my iPhone
On 30 Sep 2023, at 17:14, Edinburgh Quaker Meeting House <office@equaker.org.uk> wrote:
Hello,
Are any of you planning to put up your room hire charges in 2024?
What data will you use to guide this increase? Consumer price inflation index? Bank of England interest rates? Standing charges for electricity increase?
Or the not very scientific method of "stick a finger in the air and guess which way the wind might blow"?
Many thanks,
Miranda Girdlestone
Edinburgh Quaker Meeting House
-- Quaker Meeting House Tel: 0131 225 4825 7 Victoria Terrace Email: office@equaker.org.uk Edinburgh EH1 2JL what3words.com/cloud.renew.sport
Scottish Charity No. SCO19165 Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) in Britain: South East Scotland Area Meeting
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Hello Northumbria Area Meeting increased it's charges for its one active hiring meeting house at the end of March this year and plan to review again for the end of 2025. The basic increase for the rooms was: From £35 to £40 for the initial two and a half hours and from £14 to £15 for each additional hour for the smaller room and From £45 to £50 for the initial two and a half hours and from £16 to £17 for each additional hour for the larger room The increases are based upon covering our overall costs (which include known and unknown maintenance) but also considering the impact on existing hirers - so guided sticking a finger in the air. We are also still in a potential growth situation, so we consider the amounts we need with an eye to having more hirers and so more income and at this point, more hirers does not equate to more running costs because more hirers means both rooms being used at the same time. When we get to our potential maximum use, increases might need to be higher to cover increasing costs. The principle we work to is cost neutral for running the building. At the moment this includes Quaker use and Quaker contribution toward this. Quaker contribution involves Friends time and energy as well as financial support for having the building. In Friendship Matt Matt Moore: Northumbria Area Quaker Meeting Resources Manager Mobile: 07982 743 615 "Take heed, dear Friends, to the promptings of love and truth in your hearts" Quaker Faith & Practice: Advices and Queries: 1.02/1 ________________________________ From: Edinburgh Quaker Meeting House <office@equaker.org.uk> Sent: 30 September 2023 13:14 To: Quaker Wardenship Support <wardenship@lists.quaker.eu.org> Subject: [wardenship] 2024 price increases? Hello, Are any of you planning to put up your room hire charges in 2024? What data will you use to guide this increase? Consumer price inflation index? Bank of England interest rates? Standing charges for electricity increase? Or the not very scientific method of "stick a finger in the air and guess which way the wind might blow"? Many thanks, Miranda Girdlestone Edinburgh Quaker Meeting House -- Quaker Meeting House Tel: 0131 225 4825 7 Victoria Terrace Email: office@equaker.org.uk Edinburgh EH1 2JL what3words.com/cloud.renew.sport Scottish Charity No. SCO19165 Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) in Britain: South East Scotland Area Meeting _______________________________________________ wardenship mailing list -- wardenship@lists.quaker.eu.org To unsubscribe send an email to wardenship-leave@lists.quaker.eu.org
Hi all At Lancaster i understand its the Finance Committee that considers and is ultimately responsible for deciding room hire charges. The Committee met about 2 days after I started (or possibly just before I started). I'm not sure whether the Warden is usually asked for any input. The decision is taken approximately 3 to 4 months before any changes are made to make sure everyone's given three month's notice. We'll be increasing the charges by approximately 7% rounded (up or down as appropriate) to the nearest 50p for any booking from 1 January2024. Most of the rooms are therefore, increasing by 50p per hour, with only the most expensive rooms at the top charging 'band' increasing by £1.00. The % increase is slightly high because the 2023 increase was lower than it 'needed' to be to cover increased running costs. My understanding is that the decision process is something like interest percentage rate plus what the building costs to staff, run, and and maintain and then a bit of finger in the air rounding... I'm hoping next year I'll have a better idea of the decision making process and how it relates to budget setting and costs, as well as affordability and comparison to other venues in the city. All the best Tasha Natasha Heny Warden Lancaster Quaker Meeting House Meeting House Lane Lancaster LA1 1TX Lancasterquakers@gmail.com On Sat, 30 Sep 2023, 17:13 Edinburgh Quaker Meeting House, < office@equaker.org.uk> wrote:
Hello,
Are any of you planning to put up your room hire charges in 2024?
What data will you use to guide this increase? Consumer price inflation index? Bank of England interest rates? Standing charges for electricity increase?
Or the not very scientific method of "stick a finger in the air and guess which way the wind might blow"?
Many thanks,
Miranda Girdlestone
Edinburgh Quaker Meeting House
-- Quaker Meeting House Tel: 0131 225 4825 7 Victoria Terrace Email: office@equaker.org.uk Edinburgh EH1 2JL what3words.com/cloud.renew.sport
Scottish Charity No. SCO19165 Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) in Britain: South East Scotland Area Meeting
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Something I've not seen mentioned is checking with other venues nearby. Doesn't mean you need to match or undercut their prices, but it gives you a bit more grounding than the 'finger in the air' mentioned. It also means you make contact with other neighbouring venues, and where appropriate agree to send enquiries you're not able to help. Or suggest a group move too when they're no longer suitable at your building (ukulele classes being one example - three or four was o.k. over a dozen was more than a bit much.... especially opposite a Premises meeting! ) Yours in peace, Wendrie Heywood she/her MindfulBusinessServices.com Book a meeting with me <https://calendly.com/mindful-business-services> On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 at 20:54, Lancaster Quakers <lancasterquakers@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all
At Lancaster i understand its the Finance Committee that considers and is ultimately responsible for deciding room hire charges. The Committee met about 2 days after I started (or possibly just before I started). I'm not sure whether the Warden is usually asked for any input.
The decision is taken approximately 3 to 4 months before any changes are made to make sure everyone's given three month's notice. We'll be increasing the charges by approximately 7% rounded (up or down as appropriate) to the nearest 50p for any booking from 1 January2024. Most of the rooms are therefore, increasing by 50p per hour, with only the most expensive rooms at the top charging 'band' increasing by £1.00. The % increase is slightly high because the 2023 increase was lower than it 'needed' to be to cover increased running costs. My understanding is that the decision process is something like interest percentage rate plus what the building costs to staff, run, and and maintain and then a bit of finger in the air rounding... I'm hoping next year I'll have a better idea of the decision making process and how it relates to budget setting and costs, as well as affordability and comparison to other venues in the city.
All the best
Tasha
Natasha Heny Warden Lancaster Quaker Meeting House Meeting House Lane Lancaster LA1 1TX
Lancasterquakers@gmail.com
On Sat, 30 Sep 2023, 17:13 Edinburgh Quaker Meeting House, < office@equaker.org.uk> wrote:
Hello,
Are any of you planning to put up your room hire charges in 2024?
What data will you use to guide this increase? Consumer price inflation index? Bank of England interest rates? Standing charges for electricity increase?
Or the not very scientific method of "stick a finger in the air and guess which way the wind might blow"?
Many thanks,
Miranda Girdlestone
Edinburgh Quaker Meeting House
-- Quaker Meeting House Tel: 0131 225 4825 7 Victoria Terrace Email: office@equaker.org.uk Edinburgh EH1 2JL what3words.com/cloud.renew.sport
Scottish Charity No. SCO19165 Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) in Britain: South East Scotland Area Meeting
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Edinburgh Quaker Meeting House -
John Arnison -
Lancaster Quakers -
Matthew Moore -
Wendrie Heywood