February 2024 - wardenship - lists.quaker.eu.org

Re: Owl
by Saffron Walden Quaker Meeting Friends Meeting 26 Feb '24

26 Feb '24

Hi Anne, my advice to anyone is, unless you are an audio expert, get a Blue (make) Yeti (model) microphone for about £100. We have one that sits under the table in an 11m x 11m meeting room and it is fanstastic. A bit too fantastic as it has to sit on a two foam cushion otherwise the footsteps of people coming into the room can be deafening on Zoom, but one that is done it is brilliant at picking up the sound in the room, so people can minister like normal (i.e. just stand and speak to the room) while being clearly heard by those joining remotely. I think the right microphone is probably the most important but overlooked element of a successful set-up. Hope that helps. In Friendship, Karl On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 5:00 PM Anne Girardot <annegirardot3(a)icloud.com> wrote: > On another matter! > We at present have an Owl which helps us to have blended meetings. The > visual aspect is good enough but the audible part is not good enough for > those on zoom. We want to improve this, probably with external > microphones. Does any one have a similar system?? > > On Feb 19, 2024, at 6:39 PM, Saffron Walden Quaker Meeting Friends Meeting > <saffronquakers(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Esther, > What an interesting question. > > I think your question comes in two parts, one is about weddings and the > other is about nude events in a meeting house. > > The advice from BYM used to be that we should not hold any non-Quaker > weddings in our meeting houses. It could create confusion as the venue can > be confused with the letting and we could have people thinking they'd heard > of a Quaker wedding once where no one was allowed to wear any clothes and > have the idea going around that Quaker weddings are nude too. > > p.s. I used the word nude as opposed to naked as naked means wearing > underwear in old language, so when Quakers such as Samuel Eagle/Eccles went > 'naked as a sign' they weren't being quite a lewd as some might think. > <image.png> > > I guess naturist events are OK as long as there is no offence taken by > other meeting house users and that you have chairs that are easy to wipe > down ;-) > > I hope some of this helps. > > In Friendship, > Karl > > Saffron Walden LM > > > > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 11:05 AM Quaker House via wardenship < > wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org> wrote: > >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Quaker House <house.quaker(a)googlemail.com> >> To: Quaker Wardenship Support <wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org> >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 11:02:31 +0000 >> Subject: [wardenship] Naturalist wedding enquiry >> Dear Wardens/Managers, >> >> Have any of you had any requests and or experience of hiring your Meeting >> House for a naturalist wedding or event? >> >> If so, can you share any suggestions for any additional questions that >> might need to be raised prior to the hire that would be much appreciated. >> >> Our enquiry is for a naturalist wedding in August, date TBC. >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> *Esther White* >> *Quaker House Manager* >> >> 01752 600760 >> house.quaker(a)googlemail.com >> www.quakerhouseplymouth.org.uk >> >> Quaker House, 74 Mutley Plain, Plymouth, Devon, PL4 6LF >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Quaker House via wardenship <wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org> >> To: Quaker Wardenship Support <wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org> >> Cc: Quaker House <house.quaker(a)googlemail.com> >> Bcc: >> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 11:02:31 +0000 >> Subject: [wardenship] Naturalist wedding enquiry >> _______________________________________________ >> wardenship mailing list -- wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wardenship-leave(a)lists.quaker.eu.org >> > _______________________________________________ > wardenship mailing list -- wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wardenship-leave(a)lists.quaker.eu.org > > >

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Re: Naturalist wedding enquiry
by Saffron Walden Quaker Meeting Friends Meeting 19 Feb '24

19 Feb '24

Hi Esther, What an interesting question. I think your question comes in two parts, one is about weddings and the other is about nude events in a meeting house. The advice from BYM used to be that we should not hold any non-Quaker weddings in our meeting houses. It could create confusion as the venue can be confused with the letting and we could have people thinking they'd heard of a Quaker wedding once where no one was allowed to wear any clothes and have the idea going around that Quaker weddings are nude too. p.s. I used the word nude as opposed to naked as naked means wearing underwear in old language, so when Quakers such as Samuel Eagle/Eccles went 'naked as a sign' they weren't being quite a lewd as some might think. [image: image.png] I guess naturist events are OK as long as there is no offence taken by other meeting house users and that you have chairs that are easy to wipe down ;-) I hope some of this helps. In Friendship, Karl Saffron Walden LM On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 11:05 AM Quaker House via wardenship < wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org> wrote: > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Quaker House <house.quaker(a)googlemail.com> > To: Quaker Wardenship Support <wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 11:02:31 +0000 > Subject: [wardenship] Naturalist wedding enquiry > Dear Wardens/Managers, > > Have any of you had any requests and or experience of hiring your Meeting > House for a naturalist wedding or event? > > If so, can you share any suggestions for any additional questions that > might need to be raised prior to the hire that would be much appreciated. > > Our enquiry is for a naturalist wedding in August, date TBC. > > > Kind regards, > > *Esther White* > *Quaker House Manager* > > 01752 600760 > house.quaker(a)googlemail.com > www.quakerhouseplymouth.org.uk > Quaker House, 74 Mutley Plain, Plymouth, Devon, PL4 6LF > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Quaker House via wardenship <wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org> > To: Quaker Wardenship Support <wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org> > Cc: Quaker House <house.quaker(a)googlemail.com> > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 11:02:31 +0000 > Subject: [wardenship] Naturalist wedding enquiry > _______________________________________________ > wardenship mailing list -- wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wardenship-leave(a)lists.quaker.eu.org >

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Re: Naturalist wedding enquiry
by Judi Brill 19 Feb '24

19 Feb '24

Hi Esther Curiously, I was actually speaking with someone on the phone who had called me with the same enquiry for a Naturist Wedding in August when your message arrived! The call came from a withheld number and the caller had quite a pronounced speech impediment. I told him we would be happy to consider a booking for a Naturist Wedding. After he had asked me a number of questions about my personal experience of naturism I asked him if it was relevant to know about my personal involvement, if any. He immediately hung up and hasn’t called back. In friendship Judi Judi Brill Wardenship Egroup Administrator Meeting House Flat 300 Gloucester Road Horfield Bristol BS7 8PDs ///palace.wounds.fill Tel: 0117 942 9142 Mob: 07967 558615 judibrill(a)gmail.com > On 19 Feb 2024, at 11:02, Quaker House via wardenship <wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org> wrote: > > > From: Quaker House <house.quaker(a)googlemail.com> > Subject: [wardenship] Naturalist wedding enquiry > Date: 19 February 2024 at 11:02:31 GMT > To: Quaker Wardenship Support <wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org> > > > Dear Wardens/Managers, > > Have any of you had any requests and or experience of hiring your Meeting House for a naturalist wedding or event? > > If so, can you share any suggestions for any additional questions that might need to be raised prior to the hire that would be much appreciated. > > Our enquiry is for a naturalist wedding in August, date TBC. > > > Kind regards, > > Esther White > Quaker House Manager > > 01752 600760 > house.quaker(a)googlemail.com <mailto:house.quaker@googlemail.com> > www.quakerhouseplymouth.org.uk <http://www.quakerhouseplymouth.org.uk/> > Quaker House, 74 Mutley Plain, Plymouth, Devon, PL4 6LF > > > > _______________________________________________ > wardenship mailing list -- wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wardenship-leave(a)lists.quaker.eu.org

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Re: Naturalist wedding enquiry
by JL Wardens 19 Feb '24

19 Feb '24

Wow! No experience here sadly - would love to be a fly on the wall. I’d suggest this should be possible provided the room to be used doesn’t have street side windows? Suggest guests bring with them a dressing gown or similar to use when they are using “public spaces” in the building such as toilets etc. A undressing/dressing room will need to be accessible to all guests too. In Friendship Kirsten Lavers Warden, Jesus Lane Friends Meeting House 07545 218251 Day off Mondays > On 19 Feb 2024, at 11:02, Quaker House via wardenship <wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org> wrote: > > > From: Quaker House <house.quaker(a)googlemail.com> > Subject: [wardenship] Naturalist wedding enquiry > Date: 19 February 2024 at 11:02:31 GMT > To: Quaker Wardenship Support <wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org> > > > Dear Wardens/Managers, > > Have any of you had any requests and or experience of hiring your Meeting House for a naturalist wedding or event? > > If so, can you share any suggestions for any additional questions that might need to be raised prior to the hire that would be much appreciated. > > Our enquiry is for a naturalist wedding in August, date TBC. > > > Kind regards, > > Esther White > Quaker House Manager > > 01752 600760 > house.quaker(a)googlemail.com <mailto:house.quaker@googlemail.com> > www.quakerhouseplymouth.org.uk <http://www.quakerhouseplymouth.org.uk/> > Quaker House, 74 Mutley Plain, Plymouth, Devon, PL4 6LF > > > > _______________________________________________ > wardenship mailing list -- wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wardenship-leave(a)lists.quaker.eu.org

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Re: Naturalist wedding enquiry
by Lancaster Quakers 19 Feb '24

19 Feb '24

Hi Esther By naturalist does this essentially mean the same as humanist in your understanding? In the various MHs I've been associated with I've had requests for both humanist/naturalist funerals and weddings i.e. non-affiliated to any religious group but wanting spiritual/ritualistic elements throughout that may not be acceptable at registry offices. Funerals: there haven't been any issues, they've just been treated as any other booking. Weddings have proved more problematic for some Meetings and not for others, and over time the reticence seems to have lessened. There was (is) an understandable worry that QMHs would be viewed as secular and that we, Quakers, would potentially lose our 'privilege' of being allowed to marry without a civil registrar present or in a registered building, this seemed to be of particularly more concern before same sex marriages became lawful. Any marriage/wedding that takes place in a Meeting House, other than a Quaker marriage, is not legal (unless the Meeting House is specifically registered for weddings, but I don't know of any that are), so the couple would still need to do the legal bit elsewhere. Some Meetings have wanted to consider the request and meet with the couple before making a decision. Some Meetings have just treated the wedding as any other booking, within the guidance set out in the usual Terms & Conditions. Hope that jumble of thoughts is helpful? Good luck Tasha Natasha Heny Warden Lancaster Quaker Meeting House lancasterquakers(a)gmail.com 01524 62971 <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=Lancaster+Quaker+Meeting…> (My days off are Friday and Saturdays, and I work flexible hours between 08:45-19:30 Sunday to Thursday.) On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 at 11:05, Quaker House via wardenship < wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org> wrote: > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Quaker House <house.quaker(a)googlemail.com> > To: Quaker Wardenship Support <wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 11:02:31 +0000 > Subject: [wardenship] Naturalist wedding enquiry > Dear Wardens/Managers, > > Have any of you had any requests and or experience of hiring your Meeting > House for a naturalist wedding or event? > > If so, can you share any suggestions for any additional questions that > might need to be raised prior to the hire that would be much appreciated. > > Our enquiry is for a naturalist wedding in August, date TBC. > > > Kind regards, > > *Esther White* > *Quaker House Manager* > > 01752 600760 > house.quaker(a)googlemail.com > www.quakerhouseplymouth.org.uk > Quaker House, 74 Mutley Plain, Plymouth, Devon, PL4 6LF > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Quaker House via wardenship <wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org> > To: Quaker Wardenship Support <wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org> > Cc: Quaker House <house.quaker(a)googlemail.com> > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 11:02:31 +0000 > Subject: [wardenship] Naturalist wedding enquiry > _______________________________________________ > wardenship mailing list -- wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wardenship-leave(a)lists.quaker.eu.org >

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Re: Naturalist wedding enquiry
by Ann Turner - Warden and Bookings 19 Feb '24

19 Feb '24

Hello Esther, I have no experience of a Naturalist Wedding but immediately what springs to mind are fire risks if you allow a lot of candles? (Wax is quite easy to remove) If they will be bringing representations of the Elements and how large or many these might be? For instance we once had a funeral with so many plants there was quite a bit of soil to clean up afterwards. Of course if they choose to bring representations of the Elements might that involve birds or animals? This is all I can think of right now, and of course I may be right off track with what they are planning! In friendship, Ann On 19/02/2024 11:02, Quaker House via wardenship wrote: > _______________________________________________ > wardenship mailing list -- wardenship(a)lists.quaker.eu.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wardenship-leave(a)lists.quaker.eu.org -- Ann Turner Warden, and Bookings Scarborough Friends (Quakers) Meeting House Quaker Close, Scarborough, North Yorkshire, YO12 5QZ ///honest.noise.ground m: 07763 763 792 t: 01723 362 756 (mostly answerphone) Please note I work part-time hours and will respond as soon as I can www.pandhquakers.org.uk

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Naturalist wedding enquiry
by Quaker House 19 Feb '24

19 Feb '24

Dear Wardens/Managers, Have any of you had any requests and or experience of hiring your Meeting House for a naturalist wedding or event? If so, can you share any suggestions for any additional questions that might need to be raised prior to the hire that would be much appreciated. Our enquiry is for a naturalist wedding in August, date TBC. Kind regards, *Esther White* *Quaker House Manager* 01752 600760 house.quaker(a)googlemail.com www.quakerhouseplymouth.org.uk Quaker House, 74 Mutley Plain, Plymouth, Devon, PL4 6LF

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Meeting House Matters Notes - 13 February 2024
by Oliver Waterhouse 16 Feb '24

16 Feb '24

Ollie Waterhouse Quaker Life Hello everyone, This week's session was looking at how to find the balance between the needs of the Quaker community and the needs of hirers. The next online Meeting House Matters session will be on Friday, 22 March 10.30am. The topic is yet to be confirmed. The joining details are below and will be sent around a few days before the meeting. * Join Zoom Meeting: https://quaker.zoom.us/j/81586087624?pwd=aYxukeWCrw0Z80E9OuxIuJuZvXr8do.1 * Meeting ID: 815 8608 7624 * Passcode: MHM-online In person events in 2024 * Tuesday, 16 April at Bradford on Avon LM * Tuesday, 25 June at Lancaster LM * Tuesday, 19 November at a venue in South-East England, to be confirmed https://forms.quaker.org.uk/mhm-24/ See the notes attached to the email. In friendship, Ollie Oliver Waterhouse (he/him) Quaker Life Team Leader, Local and Area Governance Quakers in Britain 020 7663 1007 (Direct) oliverw(a)quaker.org.uk<mailto:oliverw@quaker.org.uk> | www.quaker.org.uk<http://www.quaker.org.uk/> Follow Quakers in Britain on Twitter<http://twitter.com/BritishQuakers>, Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/BritishQuakers>, YouTube<https://www.youtube.com/quakersinbritain>, and Instagram<https://www.instagram.com/britishquakers/>. CLERKS OF TRUSTEES: Please send TARA documents to supportmeetings(a)quaker.org.uk<mailto:supportmeetings@quaker.org.uk> All Quakers in Britain staff can be contacted using their usual email addresses or phone numbers. They may be working from home, in Friends House (London), in the Yorkshire Centre (Leeds) or at a base local to them. The Quaker Centre Bookshop and Café<https://www.friendshouse.co.uk/quaker-centre/> (Friends House, London) are open to the public. If you would like to support our work, you can give online at www.quaker.org.uk/donate. Britain Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) Registered charity number 1127633 | Friends House, 173 Euston Road, London, NW1 2BJ ________________________________ Quakers say: Religion is about the whole of life.

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License to occupy query
by Wendrie Heywood 14 Feb '24

14 Feb '24

Hello Friends, I've got a query about renewing a contract for Resident Friends Volunteers from a client. The renewal means there is a new voluntary agreement signed by both parties, and this agreement has a fairly non-specific ending date - as did the previous - 'not more than xxx years'. However, the license to occupy doesn't have an expiry date, it says, > The licence conferred by this agreement shall be determinable: > > > > (a)Automatically, without any separate notice, on the termination of the Resident > Friend Volunteer Agreement; > So, we've had a discussion about if a new license is required if the previous agreement hasn't terminated, but has been renewed. I remembered what happened when I was at Muswell Hill, but that was over a decade ago now. So I thought I'd ask the all-knowing group! What do you do in your meeting? Yours in peace, Wendrie Heywood she/her MindfulBusinessServices.com Book a meeting with me <https://calendly.com/mindful-business-services>

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Meeting House Matters discussion TODAY at 11am
by Oliver Waterhouse 13 Feb '24

13 Feb '24

Oliver Waterhouse Quaker Life Hello Friends, Last minute reminder that there is a Meeting House Matters discussion at 11am this morning. We are going to be thinking about finding a good balance between the Quaker use and hirer use of a meeting house. How can we make the buildings work for both and are there tips to help make things run smoothly. Do you have a story that you can bring and share from your meeting house? To join the discussion use the Zoom link below. * Join Zoom Meeting: https://quaker.zoom.us/j/81586087624?pwd=aYxukeWCrw0Z80E9OuxIuJuZvXr8do.1 * Meeting ID: 815 8608 7624 * Passcode: MHM-online In friendship, Ollie Oliver Waterhouse (he/him) Quaker Life Team Leader, Local and Area Governance Quakers in Britain 020 7663 1007 (Direct) oliverw(a)quaker.org.uk<mailto:oliverw@quaker.org.uk> | www.quaker.org.uk<http://www.quaker.org.uk/> Follow Quakers in Britain on Twitter<http://twitter.com/BritishQuakers>, Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/BritishQuakers>, YouTube<https://www.youtube.com/quakersinbritain>, and Instagram<https://www.instagram.com/britishquakers/>. CLERKS OF TRUSTEES: Please send TARA documents to supportmeetings(a)quaker.org.uk<mailto:supportmeetings@quaker.org.uk> All Quakers in Britain staff can be contacted using their usual email addresses or phone numbers. They may be working from home, in Friends House (London), in the Yorkshire Centre (Leeds) or at a base local to them. The Quaker Centre Bookshop and Café<https://www.friendshouse.co.uk/quaker-centre/> (Friends House, London) are open to the public. If you would like to support our work, you can give online at www.quaker.org.uk/donate. Britain Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) Registered charity number 1127633 | Friends House, 173 Euston Road, London, NW1 2BJ ________________________________ Quakers say: Religion is about the whole of life.

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