Dear Friends In light of the recent thread about security etc, and another intruder here a week last Saturday, Lancaster Friends have decided its time to investigate a door entry security system. Has anyone had a new system installed recently and if so do you have any insights that would be helpful to us? We are not staffed all the time we're open, which leaves users, staff, and the building vulnerable. We would like to have a system that allows the front door to be kept locked and hirers given codes that are individual to them, changeable, time sensitive, and the potential for staff and volunteers to have a 'dongle' allow easy access. Finances allowing, it would be even better if there were security cameras as part of the system, but not essential. I'm probably using all the wrong words as I'm 'running on empty' already this week, but hopefully you'll understand the gist. Any thoughts, suggestions, or insights would be very much appreciated. All the best Tasha Natasha Heny Meeting House Manager (Warden) Lancaster Quaker Meeting House lancasterquakers@gmail.com 01524 62971 (I work flexible hours over 5 days and have two days off each week)
At Westminster we have a Paxton fob system (installed by the previous wardens, I understand - thank you, Lorraine!) and I love it. We don't offer codes, but fobs. Each fob can be programmed for particular timeslots on particular days, and easily reprogrammed on the system without the fob itself having to be present. We can cancel the fobs remotely when they are reported lost (and we have a deposit system to help encourage people to look after their fobs). You can also look up in the system who has used their fob when, should that ever become necessary. I much prefer it to the newer code-only system we have at Hammersmith MH, which seems a lot less flexible. Please feel free to give me a call to discuss it further, if you want to hear me sing Paxton's praises in detail! all my best, Lorna. Lorna Richardson Premises Coordinator Westminster Quaker Meeting House www.westminsterquakers.org.uk/room-hire 07897 591961 *Please note I am part-time; I don't expect anyone to respond outside their own normal working hours.* On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 at 13:59, <lancasterquakers@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends
In light of the recent thread about security etc, and another intruder here a week last Saturday, Lancaster Friends have decided its time to investigate a door entry security system. Has anyone had a new system installed recently and if so do you have any insights that would be helpful to us?
We are not staffed all the time we're open, which leaves users, staff, and the building vulnerable. We would like to have a system that allows the front door to be kept locked and hirers given codes that are individual to them, changeable, time sensitive, and the potential for staff and volunteers to have a 'dongle' allow easy access. Finances allowing, it would be even better if there were security cameras as part of the system, but not essential. I'm probably using all the wrong words as I'm 'running on empty' already this week, but hopefully you'll understand the gist.
Any thoughts, suggestions, or insights would be very much appreciated.
All the best
Tasha
Natasha Heny Meeting House Manager (Warden) Lancaster Quaker Meeting House lancasterquakers@gmail.com 01524 62971
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Hi Tasha, Sorry to hear about the intruders, that must have been quite frightening. As you know, we have a keyfob system in Winchester so that wardens and tenants are able to access the house out of hours, with a back-up code just in case. I feel it works quite well. Something we have recently purchased is a video doorbell, which was a one-off charge of about £60 in the sale. The downside is it's an Amazon product, but the upsides include monthly savings and a deterrent effect because we could be watching/recording what's happening by our front gate at any time. Best wishes, Anna -- Anna Stewart, Warden Friends' Meeting House 16 Colebrook Street Winchester SO23 9LH 01962 864184 On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 at 13:59, <lancasterquakers@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends
In light of the recent thread about security etc, and another intruder here a week last Saturday, Lancaster Friends have decided its time to investigate a door entry security system. Has anyone had a new system installed recently and if so do you have any insights that would be helpful to us?
We are not staffed all the time we're open, which leaves users, staff, and the building vulnerable. We would like to have a system that allows the front door to be kept locked and hirers given codes that are individual to them, changeable, time sensitive, and the potential for staff and volunteers to have a 'dongle' allow easy access. Finances allowing, it would be even better if there were security cameras as part of the system, but not essential. I'm probably using all the wrong words as I'm 'running on empty' already this week, but hopefully you'll understand the gist.
Any thoughts, suggestions, or insights would be very much appreciated.
All the best
Tasha
Natasha Heny Meeting House Manager (Warden) Lancaster Quaker Meeting House lancasterquakers@gmail.com 01524 62971
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Hello, I'm another who likes Paxton locks, they come with the option of a video feed which records when the lock is used. I prefer fobs to codes as codes get shared, which is not ideal. But anything that will let you cancel, reformat, and replace fobs, as well as record trials and entries as evidence that entry was thwarted or repeated when not allowed is good. Yours in peace, Wendrie Heywood Founder | Mindful Business Services Ltd Book a meeting with me <https://calendly.com/mindful-business-services> *Don't miss our next training workshop - sign up here <https://mindfulbusinessservices.com/events>* [image: mobilePhone] 02036912389 [image: emailAddress] wendrie@mindfulbusinessservices.com [image: website] www.mindfulbusinessservices.com [image: facebook] <https://www.facebook.com/MindfulBusinessServices> [image: linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/mindful-business-services-limited> Sign up for our newsletter <https://mindfulbusinessservices.com/newsletter> On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 at 18:04, Anna Stewart <anna@winchesterquakers.org.uk> wrote:
Hi Tasha,
Sorry to hear about the intruders, that must have been quite frightening.
As you know, we have a keyfob system in Winchester so that wardens and tenants are able to access the house out of hours, with a back-up code just in case. I feel it works quite well.
Something we have recently purchased is a video doorbell, which was a one-off charge of about £60 in the sale. The downside is it's an Amazon product, but the upsides include monthly savings and a deterrent effect because we could be watching/recording what's happening by our front gate at any time.
Best wishes, Anna
-- Anna Stewart, Warden Friends' Meeting House 16 Colebrook Street Winchester SO23 9LH 01962 864184
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 at 13:59, <lancasterquakers@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends
In light of the recent thread about security etc, and another intruder here a week last Saturday, Lancaster Friends have decided its time to investigate a door entry security system. Has anyone had a new system installed recently and if so do you have any insights that would be helpful to us?
We are not staffed all the time we're open, which leaves users, staff, and the building vulnerable. We would like to have a system that allows the front door to be kept locked and hirers given codes that are individual to them, changeable, time sensitive, and the potential for staff and volunteers to have a 'dongle' allow easy access. Finances allowing, it would be even better if there were security cameras as part of the system, but not essential. I'm probably using all the wrong words as I'm 'running on empty' already this week, but hopefully you'll understand the gist.
Any thoughts, suggestions, or insights would be very much appreciated.
All the best
Tasha
Natasha Heny Meeting House Manager (Warden) Lancaster Quaker Meeting House lancasterquakers@gmail.com 01524 62971
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Friends, We have struggled with precneting access to the Meeting House by strangers, Given where we are in Bristol, between Salvation Army hostel and St Mungos and the city centre, we take this seriously. THere have beenseveral incidents. We use in effect a single high security key, issued to users and also available in a coded lock box to gain entry for infrequent users. This is not ideal. First thing we did was external CCTV. I dont know to what extent this is a deterrent. We then ensured that no exterior doors can be simply pushed open when closed - a 'night 'latch' solved that problem on the inner of our two front doors. We are considering an electronic fob system, one proprietary name is Paxton. Individually coded fobs, which can be 'turned off' . I would consider charging per fob - if lost, the hirer pays for a new re-coded fob. In Friendship, Charles Warden at Central Meeting Faustina Assistant Warden at Central Meeting Please note that we both work part time, to cover Weekdays and Sundays. t. 01173297503 m. 07410411444 Central Bristol Quaker Meeting House, Champion Square, River Street, Bristol, BS2 9DB central.warden@bristolquakers.org.uk www.bristolquakers.org.uk/central/ On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 1:59 PM <lancasterquakers@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends
In light of the recent thread about security etc, and another intruder here a week last Saturday, Lancaster Friends have decided its time to investigate a door entry security system. Has anyone had a new system installed recently and if so do you have any insights that would be helpful to us?
We are not staffed all the time we're open, which leaves users, staff, and the building vulnerable. We would like to have a system that allows the front door to be kept locked and hirers given codes that are individual to them, changeable, time sensitive, and the potential for staff and volunteers to have a 'dongle' allow easy access. Finances allowing, it would be even better if there were security cameras as part of the system, but not essential. I'm probably using all the wrong words as I'm 'running on empty' already this week, but hopefully you'll understand the gist.
Any thoughts, suggestions, or insights would be very much appreciated.
All the best
Tasha
Natasha Heny Meeting House Manager (Warden) Lancaster Quaker Meeting House lancasterquakers@gmail.com 01524 62971
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If you use Hallmaster, there is a newish service they are offering - remote door access facility integrated with the booking timetable. Not used or explored it so cant recommend but flagging up for Hallmaster customers. Might be worth a look. https://www.hallmaster.co.uk/allservices4u/ We use an electronic code door at Darlington which works pretty well though we get the odd wanderer when the building is in use & we are an unmanned building most of the time. The door has up to 5 different codes which can be reset - its a fairly simple system compared to electronic fob systems but all we can really cope with on minimal management (me!). It means most hirer group leaders have the same code but no alarming incidents to date. Its certainly a massive improvement from the old key door system! We do also have internal CCTV; rarely needed but has been useful for the odd incident. In Peace, Helen Helen Whittington Freelance Manager Darlington Quakers Urgent contact 07941 338169 On 2025-06-03 08:19, Central Warden wrote:
Friends,
We have struggled with precneting access to the Meeting House by strangers, Given where we are in Bristol, between Salvation Army hostel and St Mungos and the city centre, we take this seriously. THere have beenseveral incidents.
We use in effect a single high security key, issued to users and also available in a coded lock box to gain entry for infrequent users. This is not ideal.
First thing we did was external CCTV. I dont know to what extent this is a deterrent.
We then ensured that no exterior doors can be simply pushed open when closed - a 'night 'latch' solved that problem on the inner of our two front doors.
We are considering an electronic fob system, one proprietary name is Paxton. Individually coded fobs, which can be 'turned off' . I would consider charging per fob - if lost, the hirer pays for a new re-coded fob.
In Friendship,
Charles Warden at Central Meeting Faustina
Assistant Warden at Central Meeting
Please note that we both work part time, to cover Weekdays and Sundays.
t. 01173297503 m. 07410411444 Central Bristol Quaker Meeting House, Champion Square, River Street, Bristol, BS2 9DB central.warden@bristolquakers.org.uk www.bristolquakers.org.uk/central/ [1]
On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 1:59 PM <lancasterquakers@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends
In light of the recent thread about security etc, and another intruder here a week last Saturday, Lancaster Friends have decided its time to investigate a door entry security system. Has anyone had a new system installed recently and if so do you have any insights that would be helpful to us?
We are not staffed all the time we're open, which leaves users, staff, and the building vulnerable. We would like to have a system that allows the front door to be kept locked and hirers given codes that are individual to them, changeable, time sensitive, and the potential for staff and volunteers to have a 'dongle' allow easy access. Finances allowing, it would be even better if there were security cameras as part of the system, but not essential. I'm probably using all the wrong words as I'm 'running on empty' already this week, but hopefully you'll understand the gist.
Any thoughts, suggestions, or insights would be very much appreciated.
All the best
Tasha
Natasha Heny Meeting House Manager (Warden) Lancaster Quaker Meeting House lancasterquakers@gmail.com 01524 62971
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Charles, you mentioned "Individually coded fobs, which can be 'turned off' . I would consider charging per fob - if lost, the hirer pays for a new re-coded fob", which is exactly what we do at Westminster MH (which is also in a very busy central area), with the payment set to £50 to encourage people to look after the fobs. Anyone who has a fob (whether Quakers, hirers or contractors) also has to sign a form agreeing not to give their fob to anyone else without written permission from us, and also not ever to leave one of the external doors open. In Friendship, Lorna. Lorna Richardson Premises Coordinator Westminster Quaker Meeting House www.westminsterquakers.org.uk/room-hire 07897 591961 *Please note I am part-time; I don't expect anyone to respond outside their own normal working hours.* On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 at 09:38, Central Warden < central.warden@bristolquakers.org.uk> wrote:
Friends,
We have struggled with precneting access to the Meeting House by strangers, Given where we are in Bristol, between Salvation Army hostel and St Mungos and the city centre, we take this seriously. THere have beenseveral incidents.
We use in effect a single high security key, issued to users and also available in a coded lock box to gain entry for infrequent users. This is not ideal.
First thing we did was external CCTV. I dont know to what extent this is a deterrent.
We then ensured that no exterior doors can be simply pushed open when closed - a 'night 'latch' solved that problem on the inner of our two front doors.
We are considering an electronic fob system, one proprietary name is Paxton. Individually coded fobs, which can be 'turned off' . I would consider charging per fob - if lost, the hirer pays for a new re-coded fob.
In Friendship,
Charles Warden at Central Meeting Faustina Assistant Warden at Central Meeting
Please note that we both work part time, to cover Weekdays and Sundays.
t. 01173297503 m. 07410411444 Central Bristol Quaker Meeting House, Champion Square, River Street, Bristol, BS2 9DB central.warden@bristolquakers.org.uk www.bristolquakers.org.uk/central/
On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 1:59 PM <lancasterquakers@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends
In light of the recent thread about security etc, and another intruder here a week last Saturday, Lancaster Friends have decided its time to investigate a door entry security system. Has anyone had a new system installed recently and if so do you have any insights that would be helpful to us?
We are not staffed all the time we're open, which leaves users, staff, and the building vulnerable. We would like to have a system that allows the front door to be kept locked and hirers given codes that are individual to them, changeable, time sensitive, and the potential for staff and volunteers to have a 'dongle' allow easy access. Finances allowing, it would be even better if there were security cameras as part of the system, but not essential. I'm probably using all the wrong words as I'm 'running on empty' already this week, but hopefully you'll understand the gist.
Any thoughts, suggestions, or insights would be very much appreciated.
All the best
Tasha
Natasha Heny Meeting House Manager (Warden) Lancaster Quaker Meeting House lancasterquakers@gmail.com 01524 62971
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