Communion wine at meeting
Hi all, We have a standard clause in our lettings policy, as I am sure many meetings do, saying no alcohol. We have had an enquiry from a group of clergy who wish to hold a gathering at the meeting house and as part of this hold communion. They wanted it know if it would be possible for them to use the communion wine in the ceremony. At business meeting today no one seemed to have any objections to this, but we said we would explore further what other meetings do. It feels like it is something which probably doesn't arise very often but I wondered if anyone had any thoughts or indeed any meetings have a letting policy which doesn't say that alcohol is prohibited? Kind Regards Clare Barnett Premises committee, Hartshill Local Meeting
That clause is in the Epping Ts and Cs. Several years ago, a major regular hirer wanted to toast an outgoing employee. We decided a celebratory glass is fine but we will not hire for parties or events where alcohol is a main element. My view is that our Quaker church has always existed within the cultural setting of the time. We have members of the meeting who enjoy a glass of wine. Christine Downes-Grainger Epping Booking Clerk On Sun, 10 Sept 2023 at 14:52, Clare Barnett <clare@barnettfamily.me.uk> wrote:
Hi all, We have a standard clause in our lettings policy, as I am sure many meetings do, saying no alcohol. We have had an enquiry from a group of clergy who wish to hold a gathering at the meeting house and as part of this hold communion. They wanted it know if it would be possible for them to use the communion wine in the ceremony. At business meeting today no one seemed to have any objections to this, but we said we would explore further what other meetings do. It feels like it is something which probably doesn't arise very often but I wondered if anyone had any thoughts or indeed any meetings have a letting policy which doesn't say that alcohol is prohibited? Kind Regards Clare Barnett Premises committee, Hartshill Local Meeting _______________________________________________ wardenship mailing list -- wardenship@lists.quaker.eu.org To unsubscribe send an email to wardenship-leave@lists.quaker.eu.org
Hi Clare, In Bradford on Avon we have, a few years ago, gone away from a strict no-alcohol policy. If any hirer wants to have alcohol at a meeting, they need to apply in advance to our Local Business Meeting which then decides on a case by case basis whether or not this should be allowed. So far this has happened a few times when a group was allowed to have mulled wine at their Christmas party. The easiest solution in your case would, of course, be for the clergy to use non-alcoholic communion wine (as do many Methodist churches). Best wishes, Klaus Huber Resident Warden, Bradford on Avon On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 2:51 PM Clare Barnett <clare@barnettfamily.me.uk> wrote:
Hi all, We have a standard clause in our lettings policy, as I am sure many meetings do, saying no alcohol. We have had an enquiry from a group of clergy who wish to hold a gathering at the meeting house and as part of this hold communion. They wanted it know if it would be possible for them to use the communion wine in the ceremony. At business meeting today no one seemed to have any objections to this, but we said we would explore further what other meetings do. It feels like it is something which probably doesn't arise very often but I wondered if anyone had any thoughts or indeed any meetings have a letting policy which doesn't say that alcohol is prohibited? Kind Regards Clare Barnett Premises committee, Hartshill Local Meeting _______________________________________________ wardenship mailing list -- wardenship@lists.quaker.eu.org To unsubscribe send an email to wardenship-leave@lists.quaker.eu.org
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We at Wandsworth have a ‘no alcohol’ policy. Friends have no problem with that, and it’s written into our T&Cs, which hirers have to agree to. I feel it’s an important part of our witness to the community as well as Quakers and any attenders who might come to our Meetings for worship; that anyone who comes into the building knows that it’s a safe, sober, place and there will be no pressure to drink alcohol or to try and refrain from doing so. Hirers understand and do stick to the rule. Quaker wedding receptions use fruit juice. I’ve even reminded Friends to be careful that any bought mince pies they bring in at Christmas time don't contain alcohol (it’s sometimes easy to miss unless you scrutinise the ingredients on the box). We have, over the years, had numerous Friends and attenders who have been - still are - recovering alcoholics. The odd glass, can or bottle here or there could so easily lead to stuff being left behind, in the cupboards (like the milk in the fridge!), or become the ‘thin end of the wedge’ so it’s much simpler, and safer for all concerned, to say ‘no alcohol’ at all so that everybody knows that our MH is a place which is free from alcohol. Having said that …… I think clergy taking communion is probably the one exception that I would be prepared to give way on. It’s not ‘recreational’ consumption of alcohol, as in parties, weddings or other celebratory or social events that hirers may want to book our premises for. I think you can guarantee that a small amount will be brought and consumed, and that they’ll wash up and dispose of the bottle sensibly - take it home if necessary so that it’s not visibly part of the MH’s rubbish! Or use non-alcoholic wine just this once? As clergy they ought to respect the conventions of the place they’re using. Hope that’s helpful and not confusing?! In Friendship, Kate Bone Bookings Manager Wandsworth Quaker Meeting House 07765 245 097
On 10 Sep 2023, at 14:27, Clare Barnett <clare@barnettfamily.me.uk> wrote:
Hi all, We have a standard clause in our lettings policy, as I am sure many meetings do, saying no alcohol. We have had an enquiry from a group of clergy who wish to hold a gathering at the meeting house and as part of this hold communion. They wanted it know if it would be possible for them to use the communion wine in the ceremony. At business meeting today no one seemed to have any objections to this, but we said we would explore further what other meetings do. It feels like it is something which probably doesn't arise very often but I wondered if anyone had any thoughts or indeed any meetings have a letting policy which doesn't say that alcohol is prohibited? Kind Regards Clare Barnett Premises committee, Hartshill Local Meeting _______________________________________________ wardenship mailing list -- wardenship@lists.quaker.eu.org To unsubscribe send an email to wardenship-leave@lists.quaker.eu.org
Hello Friends, At Scarborough, we too have a no alcohol policy. It's absolutely no problem with our hirers as if they have a celebration and, say, at Christmas, they use things like Schloer, or alcohol free wine. At my friend's church, they still take Covid precautions and don't drink from a cup at communion, but dip the wafer into the wine and it is placed in the hand of the recipient.. Could this be done instead of 'drinking' the wine? Just a thought... in friendship, Ann --- Ann Turner Warden, and Bookings Scarborough Friends (Quakers) Meeting House Quaker Close, Scarborough, North Yorkshire, YO12 5QZ ///honest.noise.ground m: 07763 763 792 t: 01723 362 756 (mostly answerphone) Please note I work part-time hours and will respond as soon as I can www.pandhquakers.org.uk On 10/09/2023 18:49, Room Lettings wrote:
We at Wandsworth have a ‘no alcohol’ policy. Friends have no problem with that, and it’s written into our T&Cs, which hirers have to agree to. I feel it’s an important part of our witness to the community as well as Quakers and any attenders who might come to our Meetings for worship; that anyone who comes into the building knows that it’s a safe, sober, place and there will be no pressure to drink alcohol or to try and refrain from doing so. Hirers understand and do stick to the rule. Quaker wedding receptions use fruit juice. I’ve even reminded Friends to be careful that any bought mince pies they bring in at Christmas time don't contain alcohol (it’s sometimes easy to miss unless you scrutinise the ingredients on the box). We have, over the years, had numerous Friends and attenders who have been - still are - recovering alcoholics. The odd glass, can or bottle here or there could so easily lead to stuff being left behind, in the cupboards (like the milk in the fridge!), or become the ‘thin end of the wedge’ so it’s much simpler, and safer for all concerned, to say ‘no alcohol’ at all so that everybody knows that our MH is a place which is free from alcohol.
Having said that …… I think clergy taking communion is probably the one exception that I would be prepared to give way on. It’s not ‘recreational’ consumption of alcohol, as in parties, weddings or other celebratory or social events that hirers may want to book our premises for. I think you can guarantee that a small amount will be brought and consumed, and that they’ll wash up and dispose of the bottle sensibly - take it home if necessary so that it’s not visibly part of the MH’s rubbish!
Or use non-alcoholic wine just this once? As clergy they ought to respect the conventions of the place they’re using.
Hope that’s helpful and not confusing?!
In Friendship,
Kate Bone Bookings Manager Wandsworth Quaker Meeting House 07765 245 097
On 10 Sep 2023, at 14:27, Clare Barnett <clare@barnettfamily.me.uk> wrote:
Hi all, We have a standard clause in our lettings policy, as I am sure many meetings do, saying no alcohol. We have had an enquiry from a group of clergy who wish to hold a gathering at the meeting house and as part of this hold communion. They wanted it know if it would be possible for them to use the communion wine in the ceremony. At business meeting today no one seemed to have any objections to this, but we said we would explore further what other meetings do. It feels like it is something which probably doesn't arise very often but I wondered if anyone had any thoughts or indeed any meetings have a letting policy which doesn't say that alcohol is prohibited? Kind Regards Clare Barnett Premises committee, Hartshill Local Meeting _______________________________________________ wardenship mailing list -- wardenship@lists.quaker.eu.org To unsubscribe send an email to wardenship-leave@lists.quaker.eu.org
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Thanks Clare for a thought provoking question! I think friends should be careful not to restrict the religious practice of other faith groups if we allow them to use our premises without compromising their friends values. As a Christian myself I'm heartened by your Meetings response and of others in this chain. I would also like to point out for Meetings that adhere to a strict no alcohol policy for the sake of building users such as AA groups, that they could request their hirers substitute alcohol of grape juice. Many churches use red grape juice to allow child and alcoholics to participate in communion, so this shouldn't be seen as a burdensome or meddlesome request. Kind regards, Martin Lacey Meeting House Manager Norwich Quaker Meeting House Upper Goat Lane Norwich NR2 1EW 01603 624854 Weekdays 9 - 1 07857 167322 On 10/09/2023 14:27, Clare Barnett wrote:
Hi all, We have a standard clause in our lettings policy, as I am sure many meetings do, saying no alcohol. We have had an enquiry from a group of clergy who wish to hold a gathering at the meeting house and as part of this hold communion. They wanted it know if it would be possible for them to use the communion wine in the ceremony. At business meeting today no one seemed to have any objections to this, but we said we would explore further what other meetings do. It feels like it is something which probably doesn't arise very often but I wondered if anyone had any thoughts or indeed any meetings have a letting policy which doesn't say that alcohol is prohibited? Kind Regards Clare Barnett Premises committee, Hartshill Local Meeting
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Dear Friends, I am a fan of Hallmaster, having used it at various MHs over the years. At Lancaster we use Google Calendar along with various paper based back up systems for our bookings diary (with different bits of info on various bits of paper/in books etc, hand written, depending on the nature of the booking), and we use QuickBooks for our invoicing. I would love to streamline our systems, decreasing the need for information being collected in various places, with hard copies meaning it can't be stored 'in the clouds' without even more steps involved. I also find its easy to double book rooms using Google Calendar. I have to explain to Wardenship/the tresurer etc why I think its necessary to change, and suggest alternatives. I wondered whether Friends could answer a couple of questions that will help to focus my thinking, and my 'report'.Do you use Hallmaster, and if so what system/s were in place before?Do you have experience of integrating (is that the right word?) Hallmaster invoicing with Quickbooks? If so, is this straight forward? Is it worth the extra annual charge, or is it easier just to input manually?If you use Hallmaster would you still choose it if you were going through the process of change?Does anyone use a different bookings software that can take room bookings, create invoices, integrate with accounts packages (specifically QuickBooks)?Any thoughts on disadvantages and arguments against changing?Anything else I haven't thought to ask?I'm finding it difficult to put my thoughts together, because to me swapping to Hallmaster is obvious - saves time, more efficient, great for multi users to be able to pick up where others left off etc. But I need to have more clarity in my thinking and in my 'presentation' to discuss the options with people who have no idea of our current system or of the alternatives. Sorry, long email, but any responses, even if you don't answer the specific questions, would be very gratefully received.All the best Tasha Tasha Heny WardenLancaster Quaker Meeting House Natasha Heny 07752920337 -------- Original message --------From: Martin Lacey <office@norwichquakers.org.uk> Date: 11/09/2023 15:31 (GMT+00:00) To: wardenship@lists.quaker.eu.org Subject: [wardenship] Re: Communion wine at meeting Thanks Clare for a thought provoking question!I think friends should be careful not to restrict the religious practice of other faith groups if we allow them to use our premises without compromising their friends values. As a Christian myself I'm heartened by your Meetings response and of others in this chain. I would also like to point out for Meetings that adhere to a strict no alcohol policy for the sake of building users such as AA groups, that they could request their hirers substitute alcohol of grape juice. Many churches use red grape juice to allow child and alcoholics to participate in communion, so this shouldn't be seen as a burdensome or meddlesome request.Kind regards,Martin LaceyMeeting House ManagerNorwich Quaker Meeting HouseUpper Goat LaneNorwichNR2 1EW01603 624854 Weekdays 9 - 107857 167322On 10/09/2023 14:27, Clare Barnett wrote:> Hi all,> We have a standard clause in our lettings policy, as I am sure many > meetings do, saying no alcohol.> We have had an enquiry from a group of clergy who wish to hold a > gathering at the meeting house and as part of this hold communion. > They wanted it know if it would be possible for them to use the > communion wine in the ceremony.> At business meeting today no one seemed to have any objections to > this, but we said we would explore further what other meetings do. It > feels like it is something which probably doesn't arise very often but > I wondered if anyone had any thoughts or indeed any meetings have a > letting policy which doesn't say that alcohol is prohibited?> Kind Regards> Clare Barnett> Premises committee, Hartshill Local Meeting>> _______________________________________________> wardenship mailing list -- wardenship@lists.quaker.eu.org> To unsubscribe send an email to wardenship-leave@lists.quaker.eu.org_______________________________________________wardenship mailing list -- wardenship@lists.quaker.eu.orgTo unsubscribe send an email to wardenship-leave@lists.quaker.eu.org
Hello Tasha, Here at Scarborough I used to make out my own invoices which just involved a bit of cutting and pasting and quick changes on a sheet I'd made for each group, as previously invoices were made from some monthly trial thing which was very difficult. Our Area Meeting changed all AM Meetings to Quickbooks last year which I actually found takes longer than my 'old system' (which was only used in Scarborough, obviously) but it makes sense for all the Meetings to use the same invoicing system so I'm used to it now. I also use Google Calendar for room hire and find it very user friendly (for me!). We have three rooms we hire out, the large Meeting Room is coded red, the Small Meeting Room is coded green and the Committee Room the sort of...lilac colour. I wonder if , if you don't have rooms colour coded, it might be a help to do that? Because you can immediately see if that room is booked because of the colour. It also helps as a reference with invoices too. I've never used Hallmaster, as I say our AM has everyone using Quickbooks. So I may be describing something that is long-winded, but anyway that's how it is in Scarborough. I don't have anything stored anywhere else on paper. I don't really understand why that would be necessary, but maybe there are other people doing the bookings who perhaps can't access the Google Calendar. I'm the only person who accesses the bookings here even though the access codes are available for anyone who would like to look at the diary remotely and the computer connects to it at the click of a button. And the Meeting Hose mobile is synced to the Google Calendar so if someone calls and I'm not in the office at the computer, I can still take bookings. Just my rambling thoughts. In peace and friendship, Ann Ann Turner Warden, and Bookings Scarborough Friends (Quakers) Meeting House Quaker Close, Scarborough, North Yorkshire, YO12 5QZ ///honest.noise.ground m: 07763 763 792 t: 01723 362 756 (mostly answerphone) Please note I work part-time hours and will respond as soon as I can www.pandhquakers.org.uk On 28/09/2023 13:52, n.heny42 wrote:
Dear Friends,
I am a fan of Hallmaster, having used it at various MHs over the years. At Lancaster we use Google Calendar along with various paper based back up systems for our bookings diary (with different bits of info on various bits of paper/in books etc, hand written, depending on the nature of the booking), and we use QuickBooks for our invoicing. I would love to streamline our systems, decreasing the need for information being collected in various places, with hard copies meaning it can't be stored 'in the clouds' without even more steps involved. I also find its easy to double book rooms using Google Calendar. I have to explain to Wardenship/the tresurer etc why I think its necessary to change, and suggest alternatives.
I wondered whether Friends could answer a couple of questions that will help to focus my thinking, and my 'report'.
Do you use Hallmaster, and if so what system/s were in place before?
Do you have experience of integrating (is that the right word?) Hallmaster invoicing with Quickbooks? If so, is this straight forward? Is it worth the extra annual charge, or is it easier just to input manually?
If you use Hallmaster would you still choose it if you were going through the process of change?
Does anyone use a different bookings software that can take room bookings, create invoices, integrate with accounts packages (specifically QuickBooks)?
Any thoughts on disadvantages and arguments against changing?
Anything else I haven't thought to ask?
I'm finding it difficult to put my thoughts together, because to me swapping to Hallmaster is obvious - saves time, more efficient, great for multi users to be able to pick up where others left off etc. But I need to have more clarity in my thinking and in my 'presentation' to discuss the options with people who have no idea of our current system or of the alternatives.
Sorry, long email, but any responses, even if you don't answer the specific questions, would be very gratefully received.
All the best
Tasha
Tasha Heny Warden Lancaster Quaker Meeting House
Natasha Heny 07752920337
---- Ann Turner Warden, and Bookings Scarborough Friends (Quakers) Meeting House Quaker Close, Scarborough, North Yorkshire, YO12 5QZ ///honest.noise.ground m: 07763 763 792 t: 01723 362 756 (mostly answerphone) Please note I work part-time hours and will respond as soon as I can www.pandhquakers.org.uk
In Norwich we use Google Calendar which is wirelessly displayed on a donated wall mounted TV via a Raspberry Pi Zero2 utilising DAKboard. DAKboard can also be used to rotate through different "pages" such as adverts for upcoming Quaker events or sold as advertising to room hirers, but I'm interested in keeping it simple. For invoicing we use Libre Office, which is free open source software use by Government bodies (including HMRC) and is fully compatible with Microsoft Office. There are Linux and Apple OS versions of Libre Office. The problem we had with a paper based diary led to any Friend adding events but not deleting them and hand writing a notice board welcoming each days groups. Our current system requires two inputs - Google Calendar and Libre Office - I would be interested in software that extracts Google Calendar data direct to invoicing to simplify things further, but don't currently have the time to explore free to use options. I;m guessing Google Docs would be my first consideration. Kind regards, Martin Lacey Meeting House Manager Norwich Quaker Meeting House Upper Goat Lane Norwich NR2 1EW 01603 624854 Weekdays 9 - 1 07857 167322 On 28/09/2023 13:52, n.heny42 wrote:
Dear Friends,
I am a fan of Hallmaster, having used it at various MHs over the years. At Lancaster we use Google Calendar along with various paper based back up systems for our bookings diary (with different bits of info on various bits of paper/in books etc, hand written, depending on the nature of the booking), and we use QuickBooks for our invoicing. I would love to streamline our systems, decreasing the need for information being collected in various places, with hard copies meaning it can't be stored 'in the clouds' without even more steps involved. I also find its easy to double book rooms using Google Calendar. I have to explain to Wardenship/the tresurer etc why I think its necessary to change, and suggest alternatives.
I wondered whether Friends could answer a couple of questions that will help to focus my thinking, and my 'report'.
Do you use Hallmaster, and if so what system/s were in place before?
Do you have experience of integrating (is that the right word?) Hallmaster invoicing with Quickbooks? If so, is this straight forward? Is it worth the extra annual charge, or is it easier just to input manually?
If you use Hallmaster would you still choose it if you were going through the process of change?
Does anyone use a different bookings software that can take room bookings, create invoices, integrate with accounts packages (specifically QuickBooks)?
Any thoughts on disadvantages and arguments against changing?
Anything else I haven't thought to ask?
I'm finding it difficult to put my thoughts together, because to me swapping to Hallmaster is obvious - saves time, more efficient, great for multi users to be able to pick up where others left off etc. But I need to have more clarity in my thinking and in my 'presentation' to discuss the options with people who have no idea of our current system or of the alternatives.
Sorry, long email, but any responses, even if you don't answer the specific questions, would be very gratefully received.
All the best
Tasha
Tasha Heny Warden Lancaster Quaker Meeting House
Natasha Heny 07752920337
-------- Original message -------- From: Martin Lacey <office@norwichquakers.org.uk> Date: 11/09/2023 15:31 (GMT+00:00) To: wardenship@lists.quaker.eu.org Subject: [wardenship] Re: Communion wine at meeting
Thanks Clare for a thought provoking question!
I think friends should be careful not to restrict the religious practice of other faith groups if we allow them to use our premises without compromising their friends values. As a Christian myself I'm heartened by your Meetings response and of others in this chain. I would also like to point out for Meetings that adhere to a strict no alcohol policy for the sake of building users such as AA groups, that they could request their hirers substitute alcohol of grape juice. Many churches use red grape juice to allow child and alcoholics to participate in communion, so this shouldn't be seen as a burdensome or meddlesome request.
Kind regards, Martin Lacey Meeting House Manager Norwich Quaker Meeting House Upper Goat Lane Norwich NR2 1EW
01603 624854 Weekdays 9 - 1 07857 167322
On 10/09/2023 14:27, Clare Barnett wrote:
Hi all, We have a standard clause in our lettings policy, as I am sure many meetings do, saying no alcohol. We have had an enquiry from a group of clergy who wish to hold a gathering at the meeting house and as part of this hold communion. They wanted it know if it would be possible for them to use the communion wine in the ceremony. At business meeting today no one seemed to have any objections to this, but we said we would explore further what other meetings do. It feels like it is something which probably doesn't arise very often but I wondered if anyone had any thoughts or indeed any meetings have a letting policy which doesn't say that alcohol is prohibited? Kind Regards Clare Barnett Premises committee, Hartshill Local Meeting
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Hi Tasha and all, I'd say that if Quickbooks is being used just for invoicing, it would definitely be better to use a package like Hallmaster, which is very efficient at linking bookings to invoicing. If Quickbooks is being used for general book-keeping etc, you might want to find software that integrates well with it. Our external book-keeping company (who also do our AM accounts, I believe) seem to find it easy to use Hallmaster data to feed into the accounts. I gave them direct access to Hallmaster (where I do the bookings and invoicing), so I don't need to keep sending information across 🙂. Packages like Hallmaster also provide useful reports, e.g. over the past year - how many invoices issued each month, total amount invoiced per month, etc. The only thing I miss, having changed from Google Calendar to Hallmaster, is the daily/weekly print-outs on paper - the Google ones are better. We could display the Hallmaster diary onto a screen, which would be better than the print-outs, but have not taken that step yet. (Might not fit in so well with our homely / shabby chic 😁listed-building ambience..) Good luck, Lorraine . Andrew and Lorraine O'Hanlon Warden-Managers Friends' Meeting House 16 Colebrook Street Winchester SO23 9LH 01962 864184 ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Martin Lacey <office@norwichquakers.org.uk> Date: Fri, 29 Sept 2023 at 11:06 Subject: [wardenship] Re: Advantages & disadvantages of Hallmaster... To: <wardenship@lists.quaker.eu.org> In Norwich we use Google Calendar which is wirelessly displayed on a donated wall mounted TV via a Raspberry Pi Zero2 utilising DAKboard. DAKboard can also be used to rotate through different "pages" such as adverts for upcoming Quaker events or sold as advertising to room hirers, but I'm interested in keeping it simple. For invoicing we use Libre Office, which is free open source software use by Government bodies (including HMRC) and is fully compatible with Microsoft Office. There are Linux and Apple OS versions of Libre Office. The problem we had with a paper based diary led to any Friend adding events but not deleting them and hand writing a notice board welcoming each days groups. Our current system requires two inputs - Google Calendar and Libre Office - I would be interested in software that extracts Google Calendar data direct to invoicing to simplify things further, but don't currently have the time to explore free to use options. I;m guessing Google Docs would be my first consideration. Kind regards, Martin Lacey Meeting House Manager Norwich Quaker Meeting House Upper Goat Lane Norwich NR2 1EW 01603 624854 Weekdays 9 - 1 07857 167322 On 28/09/2023 13:52, n.heny42 wrote: Dear Friends, I am a fan of Hallmaster, having used it at various MHs over the years. At Lancaster we use Google Calendar along with various paper based back up systems for our bookings diary (with different bits of info on various bits of paper/in books etc, hand written, depending on the nature of the booking), and we use QuickBooks for our invoicing. I would love to streamline our systems, decreasing the need for information being collected in various places, with hard copies meaning it can't be stored 'in the clouds' without even more steps involved. I also find its easy to double book rooms using Google Calendar. I have to explain to Wardenship/the tresurer etc why I think its necessary to change, and suggest alternatives. I wondered whether Friends could answer a couple of questions that will help to focus my thinking, and my 'report'. Do you use Hallmaster, and if so what system/s were in place before? Do you have experience of integrating (is that the right word?) Hallmaster invoicing with Quickbooks? If so, is this straight forward? Is it worth the extra annual charge, or is it easier just to input manually? If you use Hallmaster would you still choose it if you were going through the process of change? Does anyone use a different bookings software that can take room bookings, create invoices, integrate with accounts packages (specifically QuickBooks)? Any thoughts on disadvantages and arguments against changing? Anything else I haven't thought to ask? I'm finding it difficult to put my thoughts together, because to me swapping to Hallmaster is obvious - saves time, more efficient, great for multi users to be able to pick up where others left off etc. But I need to have more clarity in my thinking and in my 'presentation' to discuss the options with people who have no idea of our current system or of the alternatives. Sorry, long email, but any responses, even if you don't answer the specific questions, would be very gratefully received. All the best Tasha Tasha Heny Warden Lancaster Quaker Meeting House Natasha Heny 07752920337 -------- Original message -------- From: Martin Lacey <office@norwichquakers.org.uk> <office@norwichquakers.org.uk> Date: 11/09/2023 15:31 (GMT+00:00) To: wardenship@lists.quaker.eu.org Subject: [wardenship] Re: Communion wine at meeting Thanks Clare for a thought provoking question! I think friends should be careful not to restrict the religious practice of other faith groups if we allow them to use our premises without compromising their friends values. As a Christian myself I'm heartened by your Meetings response and of others in this chain. I would also like to point out for Meetings that adhere to a strict no alcohol policy for the sake of building users such as AA groups, that they could request their hirers substitute alcohol of grape juice. Many churches use red grape juice to allow child and alcoholics to participate in communion, so this shouldn't be seen as a burdensome or meddlesome request. Kind regards, Martin Lacey Meeting House Manager Norwich Quaker Meeting House Upper Goat Lane Norwich NR2 1EW 01603 624854 Weekdays 9 - 1 07857 167322 On 10/09/2023 14:27, Clare Barnett wrote:
Hi all, We have a standard clause in our lettings policy, as I am sure many meetings do, saying no alcohol. We have had an enquiry from a group of clergy who wish to hold a gathering at the meeting house and as part of this hold communion. They wanted it know if it would be possible for them to use the communion wine in the ceremony. At business meeting today no one seemed to have any objections to this, but we said we would explore further what other meetings do. It feels like it is something which probably doesn't arise very often but I wondered if anyone had any thoughts or indeed any meetings have a letting policy which doesn't say that alcohol is prohibited? Kind Regards Clare Barnett Premises committee, Hartshill Local Meeting
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Dear Friends Thanks so much for all your Hallmaster replies, its been really helpful; Lancaster Quaker Meeting is now the proud owner of Hallmaster, and I'm hoping to get my head around compatibility with QuickBooks (need to get my head around QB first I think). My next request: Do you have Terms & Conditions for Room hire documents you'd be willing to share? There are none here... Many thanks in advance Tasha Natasha Heny Warden Lancaster Quaker Meeting House Meeting House Lane Lancaster LA1 1TX lancasterquakers@gmail.com tasha.lancasterquakers@gmail.com On Fri, 29 Sep 2023, 06:47 n.heny42, <n.heny42@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends,
I am a fan of Hallmaster, having used it at various MHs over the years. At Lancaster we use Google Calendar along with various paper based back up systems for our bookings diary (with different bits of info on various bits of paper/in books etc, hand written, depending on the nature of the booking), and we use QuickBooks for our invoicing. I would love to streamline our systems, decreasing the need for information being collected in various places, with hard copies meaning it can't be stored 'in the clouds' without even more steps involved. I also find its easy to double book rooms using Google Calendar. I have to explain to Wardenship/the tresurer etc why I think its necessary to change, and suggest alternatives.
I wondered whether Friends could answer a couple of questions that will help to focus my thinking, and my 'report'.
Do you use Hallmaster, and if so what system/s were in place before?
Do you have experience of integrating (is that the right word?) Hallmaster invoicing with Quickbooks? If so, is this straight forward? Is it worth the extra annual charge, or is it easier just to input manually?
If you use Hallmaster would you still choose it if you were going through the process of change?
Does anyone use a different bookings software that can take room bookings, create invoices, integrate with accounts packages (specifically QuickBooks)?
Any thoughts on disadvantages and arguments against changing?
Anything else I haven't thought to ask?
I'm finding it difficult to put my thoughts together, because to me swapping to Hallmaster is obvious - saves time, more efficient, great for multi users to be able to pick up where others left off etc. But I need to have more clarity in my thinking and in my 'presentation' to discuss the options with people who have no idea of our current system or of the alternatives.
Sorry, long email, but any responses, even if you don't answer the specific questions, would be very gratefully received.
All the best
Tasha
Tasha Heny Warden Lancaster Quaker Meeting House
Natasha Heny 07752920337
-------- Original message -------- From: Martin Lacey <office@norwichquakers.org.uk> Date: 11/09/2023 15:31 (GMT+00:00) To: wardenship@lists.quaker.eu.org Subject: [wardenship] Re: Communion wine at meeting
Thanks Clare for a thought provoking question!
I think friends should be careful not to restrict the religious practice of other faith groups if we allow them to use our premises without compromising their friends values. As a Christian myself I'm heartened by your Meetings response and of others in this chain. I would also like to point out for Meetings that adhere to a strict no alcohol policy for the sake of building users such as AA groups, that they could request their hirers substitute alcohol of grape juice. Many churches use red grape juice to allow child and alcoholics to participate in communion, so this shouldn't be seen as a burdensome or meddlesome request.
Kind regards, Martin Lacey Meeting House Manager Norwich Quaker Meeting House Upper Goat Lane Norwich NR2 1EW
01603 624854 Weekdays 9 - 1 07857 167322
On 10/09/2023 14:27, Clare Barnett wrote:
Hi all, We have a standard clause in our lettings policy, as I am sure many meetings do, saying no alcohol. We have had an enquiry from a group of clergy who wish to hold a gathering at the meeting house and as part of this hold communion. They wanted it know if it would be possible for them to use the communion wine in the ceremony. At business meeting today no one seemed to have any objections to this, but we said we would explore further what other meetings do. It feels like it is something which probably doesn't arise very often but I wondered if anyone had any thoughts or indeed any meetings have a letting policy which doesn't say that alcohol is prohibited? Kind Regards Clare Barnett Premises committee, Hartshill Local Meeting
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Hi Tasha, Here you go. Two fairly MBS standard tri-fold documents, then two from another who doesn't use our standard. I found visiting other MH's websites, downloading their public documents and seeing how they displayed their rooms etc. very useful. If you are a Quaker.app member, one of the perks for being with Quaker Meeting Networks is having all the LM and AM websites listed in one place! Yours in peace, Wendrie Heywood she/her MindfulBusinessServices.com Book a meeting with me <https://calendly.com/mindful-business-services> On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 at 14:38, Lancaster Quakers <lancasterquakers@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends
Thanks so much for all your Hallmaster replies, its been really helpful; Lancaster Quaker Meeting is now the proud owner of Hallmaster, and I'm hoping to get my head around compatibility with QuickBooks (need to get my head around QB first I think).
My next request:
Do you have Terms & Conditions for Room hire documents you'd be willing to share? There are none here...
Many thanks in advance
Tasha
Natasha Heny Warden Lancaster Quaker Meeting House Meeting House Lane Lancaster LA1 1TX
lancasterquakers@gmail.com tasha.lancasterquakers@gmail.com
On Fri, 29 Sep 2023, 06:47 n.heny42, <n.heny42@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends,
I am a fan of Hallmaster, having used it at various MHs over the years. At Lancaster we use Google Calendar along with various paper based back up systems for our bookings diary (with different bits of info on various bits of paper/in books etc, hand written, depending on the nature of the booking), and we use QuickBooks for our invoicing. I would love to streamline our systems, decreasing the need for information being collected in various places, with hard copies meaning it can't be stored 'in the clouds' without even more steps involved. I also find its easy to double book rooms using Google Calendar. I have to explain to Wardenship/the tresurer etc why I think its necessary to change, and suggest alternatives.
I wondered whether Friends could answer a couple of questions that will help to focus my thinking, and my 'report'.
Do you use Hallmaster, and if so what system/s were in place before?
Do you have experience of integrating (is that the right word?) Hallmaster invoicing with Quickbooks? If so, is this straight forward? Is it worth the extra annual charge, or is it easier just to input manually?
If you use Hallmaster would you still choose it if you were going through the process of change?
Does anyone use a different bookings software that can take room bookings, create invoices, integrate with accounts packages (specifically QuickBooks)?
Any thoughts on disadvantages and arguments against changing?
Anything else I haven't thought to ask?
I'm finding it difficult to put my thoughts together, because to me swapping to Hallmaster is obvious - saves time, more efficient, great for multi users to be able to pick up where others left off etc. But I need to have more clarity in my thinking and in my 'presentation' to discuss the options with people who have no idea of our current system or of the alternatives.
Sorry, long email, but any responses, even if you don't answer the specific questions, would be very gratefully received.
All the best
Tasha
Tasha Heny Warden Lancaster Quaker Meeting House
Natasha Heny 07752920337
-------- Original message -------- From: Martin Lacey <office@norwichquakers.org.uk> Date: 11/09/2023 15:31 (GMT+00:00) To: wardenship@lists.quaker.eu.org Subject: [wardenship] Re: Communion wine at meeting
Thanks Clare for a thought provoking question!
I think friends should be careful not to restrict the religious practice of other faith groups if we allow them to use our premises without compromising their friends values. As a Christian myself I'm heartened by your Meetings response and of others in this chain. I would also like to point out for Meetings that adhere to a strict no alcohol policy for the sake of building users such as AA groups, that they could request their hirers substitute alcohol of grape juice. Many churches use red grape juice to allow child and alcoholics to participate in communion, so this shouldn't be seen as a burdensome or meddlesome request.
Kind regards, Martin Lacey Meeting House Manager Norwich Quaker Meeting House Upper Goat Lane Norwich NR2 1EW
01603 624854 Weekdays 9 - 1 07857 167322
On 10/09/2023 14:27, Clare Barnett wrote:
Hi all, We have a standard clause in our lettings policy, as I am sure many meetings do, saying no alcohol. We have had an enquiry from a group of clergy who wish to hold a gathering at the meeting house and as part of this hold communion. They wanted it know if it would be possible for them to use the communion wine in the ceremony. At business meeting today no one seemed to have any objections to this, but we said we would explore further what other meetings do. It feels like it is something which probably doesn't arise very often but I wondered if anyone had any thoughts or indeed any meetings have a letting policy which doesn't say that alcohol is prohibited? Kind Regards Clare Barnett Premises committee, Hartshill Local Meeting
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Hi All Here are the current T&C’s, Hiring Policy and Health and Safety Document from Cambridge Jesus Lane Meeting. On confirmation of booking we email the T&C and H&S requesting a reply email confirming that the Hirer has read and agrees to abide by. In person H&S talk takes place on first instance of hire by a new hirer and repeated annually. In Friendship Kirsten Lavers Warden, Jesus Lane Friends Meeting House 07545 218251 Day off Mondays 
On 7 Nov 2023, at 15:17, Wendrie Heywood <wendrie@mindfulbusinessservices.com> wrote:
Hi Tasha,
Here you go. Two fairly MBS standard tri-fold documents, then two from another who doesn't use our standard. I found visiting other MH's websites, downloading their public documents and seeing how they displayed their rooms etc. very useful.
If you are a Quaker.app member, one of the perks for being with Quaker Meeting Networks is having all the LM and AM websites listed in one place!
Yours in peace,
Wendrie Heywood she/her MindfulBusinessServices.com <http://mindfulbusinessservices.com/> Book a meeting with me <https://calendly.com/mindful-business-services>
On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 at 14:38, Lancaster Quakers <lancasterquakers@gmail.com <mailto:lancasterquakers@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Friends
Thanks so much for all your Hallmaster replies, its been really helpful; Lancaster Quaker Meeting is now the proud owner of Hallmaster, and I'm hoping to get my head around compatibility with QuickBooks (need to get my head around QB first I think).
My next request:
Do you have Terms & Conditions for Room hire documents you'd be willing to share? There are none here...
Many thanks in advance
Tasha
Natasha Heny Warden Lancaster Quaker Meeting House Meeting House Lane Lancaster LA1 1TX
lancasterquakers@gmail.com <mailto:lancasterquakers@gmail.com> tasha.lancasterquakers@gmail.com <mailto:tasha.lancasterquakers@gmail.com>
On Fri, 29 Sep 2023, 06:47 n.heny42, <n.heny42@gmail.com <mailto:n.heny42@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Friends,
I am a fan of Hallmaster, having used it at various MHs over the years. At Lancaster we use Google Calendar along with various paper based back up systems for our bookings diary (with different bits of info on various bits of paper/in books etc, hand written, depending on the nature of the booking), and we use QuickBooks for our invoicing. I would love to streamline our systems, decreasing the need for information being collected in various places, with hard copies meaning it can't be stored 'in the clouds' without even more steps involved. I also find its easy to double book rooms using Google Calendar. I have to explain to Wardenship/the tresurer etc why I think its necessary to change, and suggest alternatives.
I wondered whether Friends could answer a couple of questions that will help to focus my thinking, and my 'report'.
Do you use Hallmaster, and if so what system/s were in place before?
Do you have experience of integrating (is that the right word?) Hallmaster invoicing with Quickbooks? If so, is this straight forward? Is it worth the extra annual charge, or is it easier just to input manually?
If you use Hallmaster would you still choose it if you were going through the process of change?
Does anyone use a different bookings software that can take room bookings, create invoices, integrate with accounts packages (specifically QuickBooks)?
Any thoughts on disadvantages and arguments against changing?
Anything else I haven't thought to ask?
I'm finding it difficult to put my thoughts together, because to me swapping to Hallmaster is obvious - saves time, more efficient, great for multi users to be able to pick up where others left off etc. But I need to have more clarity in my thinking and in my 'presentation' to discuss the options with people who have no idea of our current system or of the alternatives.
Sorry, long email, but any responses, even if you don't answer the specific questions, would be very gratefully received.
All the best
Tasha
Tasha Heny Warden Lancaster Quaker Meeting House
Natasha Heny 07752920337
-------- Original message -------- From: Martin Lacey <office@norwichquakers.org.uk <mailto:office@norwichquakers.org.uk>> Date: 11/09/2023 15:31 (GMT+00:00) To: wardenship@lists.quaker.eu.org <mailto:wardenship@lists.quaker.eu.org> Subject: [wardenship] Re: Communion wine at meeting
Thanks Clare for a thought provoking question!
I think friends should be careful not to restrict the religious practice of other faith groups if we allow them to use our premises without compromising their friends values. As a Christian myself I'm heartened by your Meetings response and of others in this chain. I would also like to point out for Meetings that adhere to a strict no alcohol policy for the sake of building users such as AA groups, that they could request their hirers substitute alcohol of grape juice. Many churches use red grape juice to allow child and alcoholics to participate in communion, so this shouldn't be seen as a burdensome or meddlesome request.
Kind regards, Martin Lacey Meeting House Manager Norwich Quaker Meeting House Upper Goat Lane Norwich NR2 1EW
01603 624854 Weekdays 9 - 1 07857 167322
On 10/09/2023 14:27, Clare Barnett wrote:
Hi all, We have a standard clause in our lettings policy, as I am sure many meetings do, saying no alcohol. We have had an enquiry from a group of clergy who wish to hold a gathering at the meeting house and as part of this hold communion. They wanted it know if it would be possible for them to use the communion wine in the ceremony. At business meeting today no one seemed to have any objections to this, but we said we would explore further what other meetings do. It feels like it is something which probably doesn't arise very often but I wondered if anyone had any thoughts or indeed any meetings have a letting policy which doesn't say that alcohol is prohibited? Kind Regards Clare Barnett Premises committee, Hartshill Local Meeting
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Hi Tasha, I happen to be a Quickbooks ProAdvisor so if you have specific questions, I may be able to help. (oliver@olivermuller.co.uk) Though I should say I've no experience with integrating Hallmaster. In Friendship Oliver Oliver Müller Warden Nailsworth Quaker Meeting 01453 832396 0770 883 1000 On 07/11/2023 15:17, Wendrie Heywood wrote:
Hi Tasha,
Here you go. Two fairly MBS standard tri-fold documents, then two from another who doesn't use our standard. I found visiting other MH's websites, downloading their public documents and seeing how they displayed their rooms etc. very useful.
If you are a Quaker.app member, one of the perks for being with Quaker Meeting Networks is having all the LM and AM websites listed in one place!
Yours in peace,
Wendrie Heywood she/her MindfulBusinessServices.com <http://MindfulBusinessServices.com> Book a meeting with me <https://calendly.com/mindful-business-services>
On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 at 14:38, Lancaster Quakers <lancasterquakers@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends
Thanks so much for all your Hallmaster replies, its been really helpful; Lancaster Quaker Meeting is now the proud owner of Hallmaster, and I'm hoping to get my head around compatibility with QuickBooks (need to get my head around QB first I think).
My next request:
Do you have Terms & Conditions for Room hire documents you'd be willing to share? There are none here...
Many thanks in advance
Tasha
Natasha Heny Warden Lancaster Quaker Meeting House Meeting House Lane Lancaster LA1 1TX
lancasterquakers@gmail.com tasha.lancasterquakers@gmail.com
On Fri, 29 Sep 2023, 06:47 n.heny42, <n.heny42@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends,
I am a fan of Hallmaster, having used it at various MHs over the years. At Lancaster we use Google Calendar along with various paper based back up systems for our bookings diary (with different bits of info on various bits of paper/in books etc, hand written, depending on the nature of the booking), and we use QuickBooks for our invoicing. I would love to streamline our systems, decreasing the need for information being collected in various places, with hard copies meaning it can't be stored 'in the clouds' without even more steps involved. I also find its easy to double book rooms using Google Calendar. I have to explain to Wardenship/the tresurer etc why I think its necessary to change, and suggest alternatives.
I wondered whether Friends could answer a couple of questions that will help to focus my thinking, and my 'report'.
Do you use Hallmaster, and if so what system/s were in place before?
Do you have experience of integrating (is that the right word?) Hallmaster invoicing with Quickbooks? If so, is this straight forward? Is it worth the extra annual charge, or is it easier just to input manually?
If you use Hallmaster would you still choose it if you were going through the process of change?
Does anyone use a different bookings software that can take room bookings, create invoices, integrate with accounts packages (specifically QuickBooks)?
Any thoughts on disadvantages and arguments against changing?
Anything else I haven't thought to ask?
I'm finding it difficult to put my thoughts together, because to me swapping to Hallmaster is obvious - saves time, more efficient, great for multi users to be able to pick up where others left off etc. But I need to have more clarity in my thinking and in my 'presentation' to discuss the options with people who have no idea of our current system or of the alternatives.
Sorry, long email, but any responses, even if you don't answer the specific questions, would be very gratefully received.
All the best
Tasha
Tasha Heny Warden Lancaster Quaker Meeting House
Natasha Heny 07752920337
-------- Original message -------- From: Martin Lacey <office@norwichquakers.org.uk> Date: 11/09/2023 15:31 (GMT+00:00) To: wardenship@lists.quaker.eu.org Subject: [wardenship] Re: Communion wine at meeting
Thanks Clare for a thought provoking question!
I think friends should be careful not to restrict the religious practice of other faith groups if we allow them to use our premises without compromising their friends values. As a Christian myself I'm heartened by your Meetings response and of others in this chain. I would also like to point out for Meetings that adhere to a strict no alcohol policy for the sake of building users such as AA groups, that they could request their hirers substitute alcohol of grape juice. Many churches use red grape juice to allow child and alcoholics to participate in communion, so this shouldn't be seen as a burdensome or meddlesome request.
Kind regards, Martin Lacey Meeting House Manager Norwich Quaker Meeting House Upper Goat Lane Norwich NR2 1EW
01603 624854 Weekdays 9 - 1 07857 167322
On 10/09/2023 14:27, Clare Barnett wrote: > Hi all, > We have a standard clause in our lettings policy, as I am sure many > meetings do, saying no alcohol. > We have had an enquiry from a group of clergy who wish to hold a > gathering at the meeting house and as part of this hold communion. > They wanted it know if it would be possible for them to use the > communion wine in the ceremony. > At business meeting today no one seemed to have any objections to > this, but we said we would explore further what other meetings do. It > feels like it is something which probably doesn't arise very often but > I wondered if anyone had any thoughts or indeed any meetings have a > letting policy which doesn't say that alcohol is prohibited? > Kind Regards > Clare Barnett > Premises committee, Hartshill Local Meeting > > _______________________________________________ > wardenship mailing list -- wardenship@lists.quaker.eu.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wardenship-leave@lists.quaker.eu.org
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Hello everyone, I am the warden of Roundhay meeting house in Leeds , we have a clause about alcohol , simply that no intoxicating beverages are to be brought on to the site. We do this because many Friends and people hiring our hall do not drink. The AA hire our hall the there understanding is that we are a ‘ safe haven’ Maybe that helps! In Friendship John Sent from my iPhone
On 12 Sep 2023, at 14:56, Penny Ware <pennyware@dooega.com> wrote:
Dear Friends I'm beginning to feel that Amersham LQM is a bit out on a limb here! This is the relevant clause in our Terms and Conditions for Hirers:
"5.5. Intoxicating liquor No alcohol may be consumed in the Meeting Room.
No intoxicating liquors shall be bought, sold or consumed on any other part of the premises without the express permission in writing of the Premises Committee, made at the same time that the booking is made. HU5 Application for the Supply or Sale of Alcohol is available in the Reference for Hirers and Users file.
When alcohol is given away free of charge at an event to people over the age of 18, its value must clearly not be included in any ticket price or entrance fee. It is not permissible to sell tickets that can then be exchanged for an alcoholic drink, nor to ask for a donation in exchange for a drink.
When special permission has been given for alcohol to be served to adults, care shall be taken to avoid excessive consumption.
Consent must also be obtained from the Warden or Premises Committee prior to submitting an application for a Temporary Event Notice (TEN) for the sale of alcoholic liquor. (see 5.8 below)"
I'll attach the HU5 referred to in case anyone is interested
Best wishes In friendship Penny Ware Co-Clerk
On 10/09/2023 14:27 BST Clare Barnett <clare@barnettfamily.me.uk> wrote:
Hi all, We have a standard clause in our lettings policy, as I am sure many meetings do, saying no alcohol. We have had an enquiry from a group of clergy who wish to hold a gathering at the meeting house and as part of this hold communion. They wanted it know if it would be possible for them to use the communion wine in the ceremony. At business meeting today no one seemed to have any objections to this, but we said we would explore further what other meetings do. It feels like it is something which probably doesn't arise very often but I wondered if anyone had any thoughts or indeed any meetings have a letting policy which doesn't say that alcohol is prohibited? Kind Regards Clare Barnett Premises committee, Hartshill Local Meeting _______________________________________________ wardenship mailing list -- wardenship@lists.quaker.eu.org To unsubscribe send an email to wardenship-leave@lists.quaker.eu.org
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participants (14)
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Ann Turner - Warden and Bookings -
Christine Downes-Grainger -
Clare Barnett -
JL Wardens -
John Arnison -
Klaus Huber -
Lancaster Quakers -
Martin Lacey -
n.heny42 -
Oliver Müller -
Penny Ware -
Room Lettings -
Wendrie Heywood -
Winchester Quaker Warden